Episode 8: Be True to Yourself

Psychology Life Lessons is a podcast where we listen in on conversations with psychology experts and try to extract life lessons, and maybe a little wisdom.

Episode 8. Dr. David Vogel and Dr. Nathaniel Wade

In this episode, Dr. Dan Lannin has a conversation with two prominent psychology researchers — Dr. David Vogel and Dr. Nathaniel Wade from Iowa State University. The conversation starts by talking about finding and pursuing passions in work and in life, and continues with thoughts on what it means to be true to one’s self. Both guests talk about their journeys to and within psychology research, and how different life events and decisions led them to where they are today. The conversation continues with Dr. Wade talking about how psychology opened up to him when he realized that “things are not always as they appear,” an idea that continues to permeate multiple areas of psychology.

Importantly, in this episode, which we’re now calling Inklings 2, we learn that David once sculpted an award-winning squirrel, and that Nathaniel once learned a choice combination of words at the racetrack.

If you’re interested in checking out their book, here is the link: The Cambridge Handbook of Stigma and Mental Health

Dr. Nathaniel Wade

Following his undergrad graduation (with a Psych BA in 1994) Nathaniel worked for 4 years as an Addictions Counselor in both an abstinence-based agency and a methadone clinic. He then went to graduate school for Counseling Psychology at Virginia Commonwealth University. He finished his PhD in 2003 and joined Iowa State that same year. He is now a Professor of Psychology and Founding Director of Network Community Counseling Services. He is a licensed Psychologist in the state of Iowa and a Certified Group Psychotherapist.

Nathaniel’s research interests center on the processes and outcomes of psychotherapy. Specifically, he has worked to develop and test interventions to promote forgiveness, to understand the impact of integrating religion and spirituality into psychotherapy, and to explore interventions to reduce the stigma associated with seeking counseling. When not working, he spends time with family, hikes in the mountains of NH, listens to podcasts and audiobooks while puttering around the house doing chores, and plays soccer each week with the “older people.”

Dr. David Vogel

David L. Vogel is a Professor in the Department of Psychology at Iowa State University (ISU), a Fellow of the American Psychological Association (APA), and a licensed psychologist in the State of Iowa. He is the Director of the ISU Interdisciplinary Communication Studies program. His professional interests focus on issues of diversity with specific attention to the role of stigma and stereotyping as they are applied to psychological health and the decision to seek therapy.

David has published over 120 peer-reviewed articles and has given over 100 national conference presentations. His research has been supported by grants from the National Institute of Mental Health, the Department of Defense, and the American Psychological Foundation. Current work is focused on developing interventions that will help reduce stigma and increase the likelihood that people in need will seek quality mental health care services.

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